Hugo Awards 2024

Hey-o, the Hugo Awards nominations came out on March 29, 2024. Which was earlier than I expected, but given the scandal of last year's awards, I imagine the procedures for this year's are SPOTLESS.

I totally forgot to become a member for this year's voting, which I only realized three days before ballots were due, so. I did not vote this year, and also did not get the handy voters' packet--which means I didn't get to read some stuff, alas!

In any case, as per usual, media I consumed before the nominations came out on March 29, 2024, are highlighted in blue and stuff I read afterwards is in green. (Purple are those I had already obtained but hadn't read yet.) I've ranked the media in the order I would have voted for them. I did not rank media I didn't consume, and I've included handy snippets from the stuff I did consume.

Since I'm posting this after the winners have been announced, I've opted to bold and underline the actual winners, while preserving how I chose to rank them.




Best Novel

1. The Saint of Bright Doors by Vajra Chandrasekera (Tordotcom) (more)
   

   The moment Fetter is born, Mother-of-Glory pins his shadow to the earth with a large brass nail and tears it from him.

   
   

   Fetter himself thinks of the law less as a strategic or rule-based and more as a muddled, dangerous beast. A rabid leopard, like Caduv's character in the play. None of the others understand that the law might do anything, at any time, to anyone, and justify itself any way it likes--it is feral, like the invisible laws and powers of the world of which it is a pale imitation. It's because none of them can see the devils, he thinks. That's why they're all so optimistic about worldly law.

   
   
2. Some Desperate Glory by Emily Tesh (Tordotcom, Orbit UK) (more)
   

   Let others preach and smile and argue and lie; she was still a soldier of humanity. Her family was her station. Her family was her cause. Her family was fourteen billion dead, and her mother was a murdered world.

   
   
3. The Adventures of Amina al-Sirafi by Shannon Chakraborty (Harper Voyager, Harper Voyager UK) (more)
   

   Then Dalila joined my crew. Or rather she blackmailed my crew into spiriting her out of Basrah by stowing away in the cargo hold, poisoning my navigator, and withholding the antidote until we had cleared the Persian Gulf. It was a complicated recruitment process.

   
   
4. Translation State by Ann Leckie (Orbit US, Orbit UK) (more)
   

   "You have only small and seemingly pointless choices available to you. But if there is anything I have been trying to teach you, it is that small actions can have larger consequences. If one has only small choices available, one must be patient, and canny."

   
   
5. Starter Villain by John Scalzi (Tor Books, Tor UK) (more)
   

   "Prisoners are so much work. You have to feed them and occasionally hose them down to get the stink off."
   "I can't tell if you’re joking with me," I said.
   "I'm mostly joking with you."
   "That 'mostly' is doing a lot of work in that sentence."

   
   
6. Witch King by Martha Wells (Tordotcom) (more)
   

   He hesitated, and Kai wondered what he was going to say. No one was expecting Kai to be successful, including Kai. No one was expecting to survive this battle. The Saredi had never been much for speaking empty platitudes, like some of the lesser borderlander leaders. Then Bashasa squeezed his arm and said, "Make them pay for it."

   
   

Best Novella

1. Mammoths at the Gates by Nghi Vo (Tordotcom) (more)
   

   Chih’s heart nearly broke when they saw Myriad Virtues where they had left her, still perched next to a plate of untouched food and a cup of undrunk wine. She gazed into the flicker of the candle flame, unmoving, as patient as the dead. People, but not human, Chih thought with a pang, and they knelt beside Myriad Virtues, their hands folded respectfully in front of them.

   
   
2. Thornhedge by T. Kingfisher (Tor Books, Titan UK)
(more)


He was kind and he did not mean to be cruel. He had no way to know that the word would pluck her away from the monsters who loved her. On the far side of changeling, they did not belong to her, nor she to them.

3. The Mimicking of Known Successes by Malka Older (Tordotcom) (more)
   

   "It has lately occurred to me," Mossa began after a pause, "that perhaps I should be more intentional in how I direct my attention."

   
   

And the three I wasn't able to read!

• “Life Does Not Allow Us to Meet,” He Xi / 人生不相见, 何夕, translated by Alex Woodend (Adventures in Space: New Short Stories by Chinese & English Science Fiction Writers)
• Rose/House by Arkady Martine (Subterranean)
• “Seeds of Mercury,” Wang Jinkang / 水星播种, 王晋康, translated by Alex Woodend (Adventures in Space: New Short Stories by Chinese & English Science Fiction Writers)


Best Novelette

1. “Introduction to 2181 Overture, Second Edition,” Gu Shi /〈2181序曲〉再版导言, 顾适 translated by Emily Jen (Clarkesworld, February 2023) (read the story)
   

   But “time migration” sounds like it’s designed for losers, doesn’t it? One can always choose to regret their choice and make a U-turn after immigrating to a different country. Time, however, is unidirectional; there is no return once you head down the linear path to the future. Doesn’t it sound like time immigrants are seeking for refuge in the future because they’re running away from the failures of their present reality? If we try to sell cryosleep with a concept like this one, not only will we end up with a limited customer base, but we also risk linking cryosleep to defeatism.

   
   
2. "On the Fox Roads" by Nghi Vo (Tor.com 31 October 2023) (read the story)

We shot down the road, faster than anything until the day came that we wouldn’t be, but that day was a thousand years away as we careened down one country road or another, shooting it out with the cops until Lai told me left or right.



3. The Year Without Sunshine” by Naomi Kritzer (Uncanny Magazine, November-December 2023) (read the story)
   

   Jake took a deep breath. “I can pedal, I can dig, I can cook and wash dishes, I can shovel snow. I’m not great with tools but I can follow directions.”
   “Why did you come here?” Tanesha asked, exasperated.
   “Because I want to live somewhere that people take care of each other,” he said, his voice cracking.

   
   
4. "Ivy, Angelica, Bay” by C.L. Polk (Tor.com 8 December 2023) (read the story)
   

   “Are you scared?”
   Yes. But you don’t tell little girls that. You need to be brave for them. You need to walk tall in the presence of evil, so they know they can stand against it.

   
   
5. “One Man’s Treasure” by Sarah Pinsker (Uncanny Magazine, January-February 2023) (read the story)
   

   Aden was still having trouble following the logic. “You found a horrible regulation, and instead of doing something about it, you decided to use it to basically murder someone?”
   “When you put it that way, it sounds bad.”

   
   
6. I AM AI by Ai Jiang (Shortwave) (about the story)
   

   Being less human makes life easier. Technology is convenient; it’s more dependable as a life force, more predictable. Emotions, humanity, mortality; humans are such fragile things.

   
   

Best Short Story

1. “The Sound of Children Screaming” by Rachael K. Jones (Nightmare Magazine, October 2023) (read the story)
   

   This mouse has a gun: a copper blunderbuss with the end belled out like something out of Looney Tunes. His name is Sir Miles, and he has been hunting. He grooms the blood from between his claws like sticky jam as he considers the newcomers, a teacher and her eight students lined up like chessboard pawns.
   It is his move.

   
   
2. “Better Living Through Algorithms” by Naomi Kritzer (Clarkesworld May 2023) (read the story)
   

   The article kind of glossed over the ethics involved, but the former grad student emphasized that the question they always asked was, “which of two good things makes people happier” and not “can we make people unhappy.” “We already know how to make people unhappy,” she said. “Just look around you.”

   
   
3. “How to Raise a Kraken in Your Bathtub” by P. Djèlí Clark (Uncanny Magazine, January-February 2023) (read the story)
   

   “Did you know that among the Mermen women hold high places?” she went on. “Shan says they are ruled by a queen, and Merwomen hold all the titles of generals. The women there even take multiple husbands! Can you imagine?”
   “Probably why they lost the war,” Trevor murmured.

   
   
4. “The Mausoleum’s Children” by Aliette de Bodard (Uncanny Magazine, May-June 2023) (read the story)
   

   Dao smiled. Nai’s smile had been bitter; Dao’s was wounding. Fear spiked through Thuận Lộc; a sense of things gone wrong, slipping from her grasp. The only thing that came to her was the truth. "I came back for you."

   
   

And the couple of short stories I wasn't able to find, alas.

• “Answerless Journey,” Han Song / 没有答案的航程, 韩松, translated by Alex Woodend (Adventures in Space: New Short Stories by Chinese & English Science Fiction Writers)
• 美食三品 (“Tasting the Future Delicacy Three Times”), 宝树 / Baoshu (银河边缘013：黑域密室 / Galaxy’s Edge Vol. 13: Secret Room in the Black Domain)

Best Series

1. October Daye by Seanan McGuire (DAW) (more)
   From Sleep No More:

   "I spent years beating you into a properly heroic shape, and I can't say I'm a big fan of this showroom shine you’ve got going on right now. Let’s fix it."

   
   
2. The Universe of Xuya by Aliette de Bodard (Gollancz; JABberwocky Literary Agency; Subterranean Press; Uncanny Magazine; et al.) (more)
   From The Red Scholar's Wake:
   

   Then Rice Fish kissed her back, and the bots around her tightened, a cocoon holding her tight in the ship's embrace. Xích Si breathed in motor exhaust and a trembling, icy heat like a burning comet's tail--and for a moment everything receded, and the world spun and spun with the warmest of glows.

   
   From The Citadel of Weeping Pearls:
   

   An Empress stood alone, and yet not alone—with no compassion or affection; merely the rituals and rebukes handed on by the ghosts of the dead.

   
   
3. Imperial Radch by Ann Leckie (Orbit US, Orbit UK) (more)
   Technically, I'd only read the Ancillary trilogy from this universe--somehow I didn't realize there were two other books set in the world! But that's more than half, so.
   From Translation State:
   

   "New ones will grow among the roots," Teacher told me.
   The conversation had already departed from the approved script, so I replied, "I am not a potato."
   Teacher pursed their lips--disapproving? thinking? hiding some reaction?--and then said, "Nothing is a potato. Things are what they are."

   
   
4. The Last Binding by Freya Marske (Tordotcom, Tor UK) (more)
   To be fair, I only had the first of these books because it was a Hugo contender in some capacity previously. But it still counts!
   From A Marvellous Light:

   "We don't know how many men--er, or women--are involved."
   "They're men."
   "Why do you say that?"
   "Because if even a single woman was involved, they wouldn't have decided that a man who'd been working there one day was a more likely source of information than a woman who'd been there for years."

   
   
5. The Laundry Files by Charles Stross (Tordotcom, Orbit UK) (more)
   While this series is much longer, I had three of them on my shelves, unread!
   From The Atrocity Archives:

   An hour later I'm lying on my belly in the undergrowth under a stand of trees. I'm clutching a monkey's paw, a palmtop computer, and a cellphone; my mission, unless I choose to reject it, is to prevent a human sacrifice in the house in front of me--with no backup.

   
   

And Adrian Tchaikovsky, whose Children of Time series I'm still completing, whose books are absolutely whoppers. I already have this series in my to-read list, but the waiting list at my library is loooooong.

• The Final Architecture by Adrian Tchaikovsky (Tordotcom, Orbit UK)

Best Graphic Story or Comic

1. Shubeik Lubeik, Deena Mohamed (Pantheon); as Your Wish Is My Command (Granta) (more)
   
   
2. Wonder Woman Historia: The Amazons written by Kelly Sue DeConnick, art by Phil Jimenez, Gene Ha and Nicola Scott (DC Comics) (more)
   
   
3. Saga, Vol. 11 written by Brian K. Vaughan, art by Fiona Staples (Image Comics) (more)
   
   
4. Bea Wolf, written by Zach Weinersmith, art by Boulet (First Second) (more)
   

And the two I wasn't able to access before the deadline!

• 三体漫画：第一部 / The Three Body Problem, Part One, adapted from the novels by 刘慈欣 (Liu Cixin), written by 蔡劲 (Cai Jin),戈闻頔 (Ge Wendi), and 薄暮 (Bo Mu), art by 草祭九日东 (Caojijiuridong) (Zhejiang Literature and Art Publishing House)
• The Witches of World War II written by Paul Cornell, art by Valeria Burzo (TKO Studios LLC)

Best Related Work
Yeah, these are not usually books I'd pick up on my own, even when I've really liked them in previous years! So, totally unranked.

• All These Worlds: Reviews & Essays by Niall Harrison (Briardene Books)
• 中国科幻口述史, 第二卷, 第三卷，(Chinese Science Fiction: An Oral History, Vols 2 and 3) ed. 杨枫 / Yang Feng (8-Light Minutes Culture & Chengdu Time Press)
• A City on Mars by Kelly Weinersmith and Zach Weinersmith (Penguin Press; Particular Books)
• The Culture: The Drawings, by Iain M. Banks (Orbit)
• 雨果X访谈 (Discover X), presented by 王雅婷 (Tina Wong)
• A Traveller in Time: The Critical Practice of Maureen Kincaid Speller, by Maureen Kincaid Speller, edited by Nina Allan (Luna Press Publishing)

Best Dramatic Presentation, Long Form

1. Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse, screenplay by Phil Lord, Christopher Miller and Dave Callaham, directed by Joaquim Dos Santos, Kemp Powers and Justin K. Thompson (Columbia Pictures / Marvel Entertainment / Avi Arad Productions / Lord Miller / Pascal Pictures / Sony Pictures Animation)
   
   
   
2. Dungeons & Dragons: Honor Among Thieves, screenplay by John Francis Daley, Jonathan Goldstein and Michael Gilio, directed by John Francis Daley and Jonathan Goldstein (Paramount Pictures)
   
   
   
3. Barbie, screenplay by Greta Gerwig and Noah Baumbach, directed by Greta Gerwig (Warner Bros. Studios)
   
   
   
4. Nimona, screenplay by Robert L. Baird and Lloyd Taylor, directed by Nick Bruno and Troy Quane (Annapurna Animations)
   
   
   
5. Poor Things, screenplay by Tony McNamara, directed by Yorgos Lanthimos (Element Pictures)
   

I didn't even know Wandering Earth had a sequel! I watched the first one on Netflix, even! Man oh man,m I need to catch up.

• 流浪地球2 / The Wandering Earth II, based on the novel by 刘慈欣 Liu Cixin, screenplay by 杨治学 Yang Zhixue, 郭帆 / Frant Gwo, 龚格尔 Gong Geer, and 叶濡畅 Ye Ruchang, script consultant 王红卫 Wang Hongwei, directed by 郭帆 / Frant Gwo (中影创意（北京）电影有限公司 / CFC Pictures Ltd, 郭帆（北京）影业有限公司 / G!Film (Beijing) Studio Co. Ltd, 北京登峰国际文化传播有限公司 / Beijing Dengfeng International Culture Communication Co, Ltd, 中国电影股份有限公司 / China Film Co. Ltd)

Best Dramatic Presentation, Short Form

1. Loki: “Glorious Purpose,” screenplay by Eric Martin, Michael Waldron and Katharyn Blair, directed by Justin Benson and Aaron Moorhead (Marvel / Disney+)
   
   
   
2. The Last of Us: “Long, Long Time,” written by Craig Mazin and Neil Druckmann, directed by Peter Hoar (Naughty Dog / Sony Pictures)
   
   
   
3. Star Trek: Strange New Worlds: “Those Old Scientists,” written by Kathryn Lyn and Bill Wolkoff, directed by Jonathan Frakes (CBS / Paramount+)
   
   
   
4. Doctor Who: “Wild Blue Yonder,” written by Russell T. Davies, directed by Tom Kingsley (Bad Wolf with BBC Studios for The BBC and Disney Branded Television)
   
   
   
5. Star Trek: Strange New Worlds: “Subspace Rhapsody,” written by Dana Horgan and Bill Wolkoff, directed by Dermott Downs (CBS / Paramount+)
   
   
   
6. Doctor Who: “The Giggle,” written by Russell T. Davies, directed by Chanya Button (Bad Wolf with BBC Studios for The BBC and Disney Branded Television)
   


Best Game or Interactive Work
Nope, did not play any of these. Though all the Jedi: Survivor previews looked cool!

• Alan Wake 2, developed by Remedy Entertainment, published by Epic Games
• Baldur’s Gate 3, produced by Larian Studios
• Chants of Sennaar, developed by Rundisc, published by Focus Entertainment
• DREDGE, developed by Black Salt Games, published by Team17
• The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom, produced by Nintendo
• Star Wars Jedi: Survivor, developed by Respawn Entertainment, published by Electronic Arts

Best Editor Short Form
For editors, particularly, it's kind of difficult to find out who edited what. I mean, probably not that difficult, but I didn't do the research.

• Scott H. Andrews
• Neil Clarke
• 刘维佳 (Liu Weijia)
• Jonathan Strahan
• Lynne M. Thomas & Michael Damian Thomas
• 杨枫 (Yang Feng)

Best Editor Long Form
Same here.

• Ruoxi Chen
• Lindsey Hall
• Lee Harris
• Kelly Lonesome
• David Thomas Moore
• 姚海军 (Yao Haijun)


Best Professional Artist
Aw man, I totally forgot to look up the artists' websites to see what I think!

• Micaela Alcaino
• Rovina Cai
• Galen Dara
• Dan Dos Santos
• Tristan Elwell
• Alyssa Winans

Best Semiprozine
These are mostly repeat nominees, except for GigaNotoSaurus. So theoretically, I could rank most of these based on previous readings, but that seems unfair to the newbie.

• Escape Pod, editors Mur Lafferty and Valerie Valdes; assistant editors Benjamin C. Kinney, Premee Mohamed and Kevin Wabaunsee; hosts Tina Connolly and Alasdair Stuart; producers Summer Brooks and Adam Pracht; and the entire Escape Pod team
• FIYAH Literary Magazine, publisher and executive editor DaVaun Sanders, poetry editor B. Sharise Moore, special projects manager L. D. Lewis, art director Christian Ivey, acquiring editors Rebecca McGee, Kerine Wint, Joshua Morley, Emmalia Harrington, Genine Tyson, Tonya R. Moore, sponsor coordinator Nelson Rolon
• GigaNotoSaurus, editor LaShawn M. Wanak, associate editors Mia Tsai and Edgard Wentz, along with the GNS Slushreaders Team
• khōréō, produced by Aleksandra Hill, Zhui Ning Chang, Kanika Agrawal, Isabella Kestermann, Rowan Morrison, Sachiko Ragosta, Lian Xia Rose, Jenelle DeCosta, Melissa Ren, Elaine Ho, Lilivette Domínguez, Jei D. Marcade, Jeané Ridges, Isaree Thatchaichawalit, Danai Christopoulou, M. L. Krishnan, Ysabella Maglanque, Aaron Voigt, Adil Mian, Alexandra Millatmal, E. Broderick, K. S. Walker, Katarzyna Nowacka, Katie McIvor, Kelsea Yu, Marie Croke, Osahon Ize-Iyamu, Phoebe Low, S. R. Westvik, Sara S. Messenger
• Strange Horizons, by the Strange Horizons Editorial Collective
• Uncanny Magazine, publishers and editors-in-chief: Lynne M. Thomas and Michael Damian Thomas; managing editor Monte Lin; nonfiction editor Meg Elison; podcast producers Erika Ensign and Steven Schapansky


Best Fanzine
I'm pleased half of these are new nominees! But I didn't look them up, so no ranking here, either.

• Black Nerd Problems, editors Omar Holmon and William Evans
• The Full Lid, written by Alasdair Stuart and edited by Marguerite Kenner
• Idea, editor Geri Sullivan
• Journey Planet, edited by Michael Carroll, Vincent Docherty, Sara Felix, Ann Gry, Sarah Gulde, Allison Hartman Adams, Arthur Liu, Jean Martin, Helena Nash, Pádraig Ó Méalóid, Yen Ooi, Chuck Serface, Alan Stewart, Regina Kanyu Wang, James Bacon and Christopher J. Garcia
• Nerds of a Feather, Flock Together, editors Roseanna Pendlebury, Arturo Serrano, Paul Weimer; senior editors Joe Sherry, Adri Joy, G. Brown, Vance Kotrla
• Unofficial Hugo Book Club Blog, editors Olav Rokne and Amanda Wakaruk


Best Fancast
These are half new, too! But to be entirely fair, I've only listened to one of them in recent times, hence only one is being ranked.

1. Worldbuilding for Masochists, presented by Marshall Ryan Maresca, Rowenna Miller, Cass Morris and Natania Barron (more)

So yeah, I've listened to the first three here, in previous years, but the final two are new.

• The Coode Street Podcast, presented by Jonathan Strahan and Gary K. Wolfe
• Hugos There, presented by Seth Heasley
• Octothorpe, by John Coxon, Alison Scott, and Liz Batty
• Publishing Rodeo, presented by Sunyi Dean and Scott Drakeford
• 科幻Fans布玛 (Science Fiction Fans Buma), production team 布玛（Buma)，刘路（Liu Lu)，刘倡（Liu Chang)


Best Fan Writer
This is another interesting one, because I've the three I'm ranking are because I followed them after nominations in previous years.

1. James Davis Nicoll (more)
2. Bitter Karella (more)
3. Jason Sanford (more)

And the unranked, since I haven't been following them.

• Alasdair Stuart
• Paul Weimer
• Örjan Westin

Best Fan Artist
Another set of artists I forgot to look up beforehand.

• ​​Iain J. Clark
• Sara Felix
• Dante Luiz
• Laya Rose
• Alison Scott
• España Sheriff

Lodestar Award for Best Young Adult Book

1. Liberty’s Daughter by Naomi Kritzer (Fairwood Press) (more)
   

   "I'm a water quality expert," Faduma said. "Not a system hacking expert."
   "Beck is an expert at finding people," Zach said. "And even more an expert at talking them into shit that was not on their to-do list that day."

   
   
2. To Shape a Dragon’s Breath by Moniquill Blackgoose (Del Rey) (more)
   

   "I didn't ask to be precedent. I never wanted to leave Masquapaug. If we had anyone there who could teach me, I'd still be there. But our dragons died two hundred years ago, and their dragoneers with them, and the knowledge was lost. I'm here to help my people, Frau Kuiper. I'm not here to make them more like yours."

   
   
3. Unraveller by Frances Hardinge (Macmillan Children’s Books; eligible due to 2023 U.S. publication by Amulet) (more)
   

   "Stealthy," she had said. What had she meant by that?
   Holding his thoughts like treasures, so he won't brush the cobwebs off them. Cupping poison in his hands so that he can't spill a drop. Letting a secret cut him off from the world.

   
   
4. Abeni’s Song by P. Djèlí Clark (Starscape) (more)
   

   "Sometimes the things we seek and work hardest to obtain may not be possible."
   Abeni shook her head, confused. "Then why bother trying?"
   The old woman smirked. "To try, girl, is sometimes all we ever have."

   
   
5. The Sinister Booksellers of Bath by Garth Nix (Katherine Tegen Books, Gollancz and Allen & Unwin) (more)
   

   "Did you never want to be a princess?" asked Merlin. "Even when you were little?"
   "No," said Susan. "I was always much more interested in being a witch. And now I suppose I sort of am one."

   
   
6. Promises Stronger than Darkness by Charlie Jane Anders (Tor Teen) (more)
   

   (Wyndgonk realized after a long time that "hope" and "fear" were two separate words in most languages, whereas in Thythuthyan, they're the same concept. Every hope contains a fear, and the other way around.)



Astounding Award for Best New Writer (sponsored by Dell Magazines)

1. Xiran Jay Zhao (eligibility extended at request of Dell Magazines)
   From Iron Widow: (more)
   

   I am exactly the kind of ice-blooded, rotten-hearted girl he fears I am. And I am fine with that. May he stay unsettled.

   
   
2. Hannah Kaner (1st year of eligibility)

From Godkiller: (more)


"People make gods, and, for better or worse, gods make people. We show each other for what we truly are. Yearning beings, desperate for love, power, safety."



3. Sunyi Dean (2nd year of eligibility)
   From The Book Eaters: (more)
   

   And so she looked down at her son and loved him with the kind of twisted, complex feeling that came from having never wanted him in the first place; she loved him with bitterness, and she loved him with resignation. She loved him though she knew no good could ever come from such a bond.

   
   
4. Moniquill Blackgoose (1st year of eligibility)
   From To Shape a Dragon's Breath: (more)
   

   "That kind of talk will have people calling you an ignorant savage."
   "As if saying that a dragon's breath reduces whatever it touches to its component athers is really any different from saying that the shapeless medicine of a dragon's breath is change. Truth is truth is truth."

   
   
5. Em X. Liu (1st year of eligibility)
   From The Death I Gave Him: (more)
   

   The darkness lays over them now like some hazy filter, distorting the reality he sees before him. Becoming a murderer is supposed to be a violent thing. All he is right now is still.

   
   
6. Ai Jiang (2nd year of eligibility)

From Linghun: (more)


You wonder if the newcomers will be the same as the others. You wonder if they, too, will be unrelenting, or perhaps they will be like you...unhaunted.



And that's it for this year! I should really remember to vote next year--which will be, hey, in Seattle! Maybe I'll even attend.